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<title>May Express Signing become free for freeware?</title>
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<summary type="html">&amp;nbsp;I think about one possibility to improve Symbian Signed process. 
 
 &amp;nbsp;All we know, what Symbian Signed support freeware developer&amp;rsquo;s community with    Submit freeware   . ...</summary> 
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&amp;nbsp;I think about one possibility to improve Symbian Signed process.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;
&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;All we know, what Symbian Signed support freeware developer&amp;rsquo;s community with &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.symbiansigned.com/app/page/dev/submitFreeware&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;Submit freeware&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span&gt;. Frankly, I never use it, but that
process definitely has lots of issues, so developers prefer to publish unsigned
applications. What Cellmania do? It&#039;s provided access to Cellmania PubId and performs
testing (taking risks to sign spyware etc). That&#039;s all.&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;
&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;Now let&#039;s
see on PubId owners. That&amp;rsquo;s privileged and controllable category of developers
completely hasn&amp;rsquo;t support for freeware development.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;PubId owners don&amp;rsquo;t need Cellmania, because
they can take risks for signed app for self.&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;
&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;So if I&amp;rsquo;m a freeware coder,&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;then I haven&amp;rsquo;t any reason even try to get
PubId, because it&#039;s not give me any benefits, and I still have to use Cellmania
process. On other side, if I&amp;rsquo;m PubId owner and I want to sign freeware
application for free, then I have no any advantages of owning PubId, and forced
to use Cellmania process again. Of course, thats force to publish unsigned applications.&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;
&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;That&amp;rsquo;s kind of *supporting* freeware
development looks a bit ugly.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;I think Symbian Signed can make it
better. Symbian Signed can make Express Signed free for freeware applications.&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;
&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;That will have some advantages and
disadvantages. Let&amp;rsquo;s clear up what that give to us:&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ol&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;&lt;span&gt;Real freeware development support at least
	for PubId owners. That allows developer to sign freeware application
	immediately. So PubId owners get more motivation to publish their apps as
	freeware.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;&lt;span&gt;That can help with unsigned applications
	distribution problem.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;&lt;span&gt;That&amp;rsquo;s make PubId more desired for
	developers. So freeware developer may prefer to buy PubId.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ol&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;
&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Issues:
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ol&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;&lt;span&gt;Who know, is it really freeware
	application? User can trick Symbian Signed to save 20$.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;Risk to
	sign malware.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ol&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;
&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;Let&amp;rsquo;s look
closely at our issues. First one is a biggest problem. But it&#039;s can be solved
well. First of all &amp;mdash; PubId owners is vulnerable in compare with other developers.
Symbian Signed have good way to penalty irresponsible developer &amp;mdash; block its
PubId or write off its TC Ids.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;And as
more desired PubId looks for developer as more he don&#039;t want to lose it. That&amp;rsquo;s
why PubId owners more responsible. Second &amp;mdash; developer should mark it&#039;s
submission as freeware before signing, so that kind of submissions is easy to
track. Then Symbian Signed can use old technique of submissions random checking
to find shareware apps which signed as freeware. If that still looks risky for
Symbian Signed, they can implement more severe method: Developer should have enough
TC TrustCenter IDs before signing freeware. Those IDs can be locked until
Symbian Signed will check submission and confirm its freeware.&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;
&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;What about
malware? 20$ is not a big price for signing malware. Moreover, if someone try
to sign malware for free, he&#039;s prefer to send it to CellMania then to use PubId
which allow to find his real name and firm details. So making Open Signed free
for freeware doesn&amp;rsquo;t open the door for malware.&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;
&amp;nbsp;Now let&#039;s be honest: Symbian Signed will lose some profit (TC Id&#039;s), but such kind of freeware support looks much better then existing one. 
&lt;/p&gt; 
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